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Chaos exists within an order above it, just as empty space is only empty because of what surrounds it.

If something that someone does is 100% ordered, then there is no progress, just constancy.

Just as if a building wasn’t hollow, but a solid block with no space to move.

If someone is 100% chaotic, then what they do has no weight, like a gas that escapes indefinitely into a void.

You could frame it like this: the chaos is the energy, and the order is trapping that energy to make something of it.

So, you need to set up an order (a “trap”) which functions not as a trap but as something that converts energy into enjoyment, productivity and whatever else you want.

The more complex and well-designed the order, the more you can get out of the energy within it, just as a well-designed and kitted-out building will see much more efficient and meaningful use of space.

We can view autism as extreme energy. In that case, autists like order and routine because they have a lot of energy to contain.

Without an order to push against, who knows where the energy will go?

This is a big reason for why I made my rituals.

I was high energy and then burnt-out, but really that was only a problem because of how school works, but still, I didn’t want to burn out again but I still wanted to use energy, so I had to come up with a new, considered order.

What if schizo and autist are the two possible outcomes of high energy? 

Order + energy = autist

No order + energy = schizo

This makes sense because my mum said that when she was schizo, she was happy and motivated or something, whereas afterwards has been depressed. 

I have never been depressed and always been high energy, but if I had accepted a lower-energy lifestyle instead of staying true to my energy, I could have become depressed.

Well I was depressed for like a day when they added female characters to Chivalry 2. But I haven't been generally depressed

In the video above,  JREG said his theory doesn't make any sense because, with his framework, the autists are high dopamine on the other end of a spectrum to the schizos.

But schizo is associated with "too much dopamine".

But he kind of forgot his own horseshoe which is that indeed both have high dopamine, it's just that one is ordered and the other isn't.

So autism isn't just about the dopamine, it's about "getting dopaminergically into something", as opposed to the schizo that doesn't.

When someone feels themselves to harbour chaos energy, that is because there is a lack of order to match their energy.

The schizos make weird lateral connections in their brains which aren't by themselves useful, but they are useful because they provide some insight which you need. To make sense of it, you need to make lateral connections between various people's lateral connections, treating the schizo as another form of autism.

JREG said there's "not a lot of upsides", but what he's missing is that you should make a "schizo framework" to counter what is supposedly correct, you can then use that framework to seriously challenge accepted practices.

You don't simply believe what a schizo says. You think schizophrenically about their schizophrenic thinking. If you took the schizophrenic thinking autistically, that would make you schizophrenic for taking it literally and believing it.

If you think laterally about their lateral thinking, you're trying to make connections between their lateral thinking and other people's lateral thinking to find a pattern and come to something that schizos can all agree on.

I propose that 50% of schizo thinking is people's lived reality, and that's learned in conversation.

Because just asking people "How do you live?" is not necessarily going to get an insightful response. There may be another dimension (like asking people "What do you think?") to this but I'm not gonna wrap my head around it right now.

With that said, here is an open question:

How do you live? What is your internal lifestyle? What mental processes do you do?

But wait... There is an unavoidable bias in me asking this question, which is that I'm only asking it to the people in this server [[copy and pasted from PF Jung's server]], and will only get a response from people willing and meaningfully able to respond.

Such bias is the reason why the world is crumbling despite the "endless debate" over politics (quoting a frustrated UK guy on TV on a BBC politics show).

So, the next time you debate politics, remember the selection bias inherent in debating politics with other people who are interested in and able to debate politics.

it's like, when people "hallucinate" (think wrongly) they are reaching at deeper truths important for survival. So it's best not to brush off social justice warriors as though nothing is wrong. Delusional people have meaningful pieces of the puzzle.

Sometimes, to reach an important truth, you have to first be wrong 500 times.

When I was 10, my mum had a schizophrenic break. That made her want to take me out of school because she thought they were killing the kids.

That was very stupid of her, but also very wise.

Do not underestimate the hidden wisdom that is accessed in extreme brain states.

The brain breaks itself to make itself.

"I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed."

She's on medication now, and not any wiser than she was while schizo. 

Different brain states mean the brain has different priorities, and in doing so accesses different truths. You can't access all basic truths at the same time with the same brain state.

I have gone from one extreme of thoughtless thinking, and along the horseshoe to the other extreme of thoughtless thinking, with the "melting reality" I suppose at the centre of this thought journey.

I only got to the other extreme because I realised the possibility of meaningful thought without analysis.

I suppose, then, the most thoughtful thinking is that which is closest to the total deconstruction of one's reality in their mind.

However, the most generating thinking is on each end of the horseshoe. It is the thinking that is embedded within action, and on the other side, the thinking that is embedded within imagination and trust in it.

Both ends of the horseshoe require a kind of trust in one's thoughtlessness.

I suppose that some people spend most of their life closer to thoughtless action, while others closer to actionless thought. 

It depends what you prioritise - action or thought. 

I used to prioritize action, because that is what is fun. And the purpose of thought was to maximise action (+ it still is). The action itself, however, is thoughtless in the sense that it is chosen because it is fun or because it is instructed. In doing so, I was very much an instructor, too.

Now, I can enjoy producing thoughts as an action as part of thought, as opposed to an action as part of action.

I suppose that on each end of this horseshoe, the individual may find himself very much an "instructor" – either an instructor of action in the case of a physical social game, or an instructor of thought in the case of a schizo prophet.

This is simply because, in his deep thought, he is more imaginative and willing than the rest. He is happy. That is something that both ends of the horseshoe share. 

+Meanwhile, the one with his reality melting is far from certainty, and this may be troubling, and he doesn't see it as an achievement.

At least>his reality is melting by his own action – or, rather, inaction and total thought. If his reality does not melt by his own action (I mean, thought), then it may melt externally (which is by his external action, though he does not know it). His world that he believes in externally to him will melt, and this, too, may be troubling and feared.

When I was 16, my brain was happily melted from all the focus I had done. I could no longer control myself meaningfully. I did not know how to escape from that meaningfully (thanks to the education system which I followed along with like a good boy), so I physically suffered thoughtlessly in sleep deprivation with no-one to notice and propose better, though I was not unhappy. I had compressed all of the juice out of my brain. That was good, but it took me like a few years to learn to loosen my grip on my brain (my focused action), allowing the capacity to meaningfully control myself to return.

In doing so, my enjoyment reduced.

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The reason I’ve called myself “schizo” [schizo-autist] is because, as I turned my autistic energy to a new way of thinking, my worldview became my own and considered, and in doing so became “spiritual” and aligned to good in ways that I wasn’t before.

I was “kind-hearted” as a child, but had gaps in my morality.

Years ago, my concern was how my energy could damage me. ~2 years ago, my concern was being a good person.

The “new way of thinking” was to think without analysis. Like, putting minimal effort, yet still functioning as a comprehensible person.

As I write this, I’m not analysing everything I’m writing. I’m not logic-ing the sh1t out of everything I write. 

Words are just kind of rolling and I’m believing. 

I believe in my assumptions

I just assume that I’m right, because I trust my shallow judgements.

It is an extremely “easy” way of living compared to how I used to before.

This is what I wanted. When I was maybe 15, not long before I was consumed by initially enthusiastic compulsion, I did think to myself that I did not want to try so hard forever.

Even aged like 21, I was still shedding tryhardism and converting to this relatively schizo mode of behaviour that I inhabit.

I am somehow able to do things intelligently without making effort. I think I used to be quite shocked by this ability.

I can even enjoy playing Rocket League without making effort.

I used to sweat on my mouse and bash and sweat on the W key and tell myself if I lost a game I died. 

Because doing that was just the way to have fun. 

But now I’ve schizo-d my brain such that I can have fun despite being in this low-energy state.

I couldn’t even answer the call of autism even if I wanted to, because sleep deprivation has fvcked me so hard that I have a slight problem with head pain, and tryharding would cause head pain and perhaps a brain aneurysm. 

I don’t know if there is a physical cause in my brain. Whatever the case, I am gonna get it checked out.

I am not the kind of “autist” who can play chess, do maths or play strategy games.

I am like a hybrid which may be increasingly rare because of how incompatible I am with societal expectations.

Like, everybody bends to society, and some people just break. And people like me can only be broken for so long before collapse looms.